Travis Stirewalt

Re: Purchase Powder SMART!

[color="Blue"]The Woes of Buying Powder Solely on Price![/color]
[color="blue"]By Travis Stirewalt, CSI of TIGER Drylac USA[/color]

Let’s cut right to the chase; I make my living selling powder. Now that we have cleared the air, I want to provide you with some tools to assist you in saving money on your powder purchases.

If you have attended one of our TIGER Drylac USA Powder Coating Schools, you will be familiar with the evaluation process we train our customers on how to give yourself a cost analysis on powder purchases. Make no bones about it, we want to maximize your dollar and keep you running efficient.

With the large number of suppliers in the marketplace manufacturing and selling powder, many powder coaters are tricked into the nickel and dime cost savings game to try and save money. Who could blame you? There are many “smoke and mirror” tricks that suppliers will use to make you think you are saving money at $1.00 off per pound. However, truth be known, the transfer efficiency with a particular powder may be very poor and you might be wasting higher volumes of powder. All said and done, you might be getting hundreds or thousands of extra square footage of coverage off of the same purchase of powder at the $1.00 per pound higher price.

Let’s discuss a few commonly used terms when it comes to the pricing of powder jobs.

[color="blue"]What is Transfer Efficiency? [/color]
In basic terms, it means how much powder is used effectively vs. powder that ended up on the floor of the booth, in the reclaim or spray-to-waste cartridge. Theoretically, the higher the transfer efficiency; the more powder will be on the part. The lower the transfer efficiency; the more powder will be on the floor of the booth. Transfer efficiency is driven by spray equipment, powder, operator knowledge, part configuration, rack density, ground, particle size distribution as well as many other shop specific issues.

[color="blue"]What is First Pass Transfer Efficiency? [/color]
The term first pass transfer efficiency is used to describe the amount of powder that is successfully transferred from box or hopper to the parts on a first run (pass) scenario. This does not take into consideration reclaim systems.

In order to calculate first pass transfer efficiency, follow the basic testing steps.

1. Weigh a box or hopper of powder prior to beginning your parts.
2. Weigh a specific number of un-coated parts.
3. Powder coat the parts and cure them.
4. Weigh the box or hopper of powder after powder coating out of it. This will give you the amount of powder that was actually used while spraying the parts.
5. Weigh the cured parts to determine how much powder (by weight) actually made it onto the parts.

Now you know by ratio the weight of powder sprayed vs. the weight of powder that actually ended up on the parts. Now you have a true first pass transfer efficiency measurement. If you can determine that you used 10 lbs out of the box and the post-powder coated and cured parts weigh 5 lbs more than they did prior to coating, you have determined that you are at a 50% first pass transfer efficiency.

[color="blue"]What is Applied Cost?[/color]
Applied cost is basically a theoretical calculation that uses the specific gravity of any given powder and determines a theoretical coverage in square feet – in a perfect world.

How can you calculate your applied costs? This is done with a simple set of calculations. Every powder has its own Specific Gravity. Specific Gravity determines the theoretical yield of the powder. Specific Gravity by definition is the density of a formulation relative to water. Once you have this number, you can plug it into the following calculation to begin breaking down a theoretical cost analysis of the powder.

[color="blue"]EXAMPLE JOB FOR ANALYSIS[/color]
JOB: ALUMINUM PANELS – 2,000 SQUARE FEET TOTAL
COLOR REQUIREMENT – ANY WHITE POWDER
MIL REQUIREMENT – 2.5

Let’s take two competitors white powders and stack them up against each other and see which one you would choose. Supplier names have been changed to protect the identity of the guilty.

Powder Supplier 1
White Powder
Specific Gravity 1.20
Cost Per Pound $4.00

Powder Supplier 2
White Powder
Specific Gravity 1.80
Cost Per Pound $3.25

The calculation you will need to know for this applied cost analysis is:

193.2 ÷ SPECIFIC GRAVITY = THEORETICAL COVERAGE IN SQ FT PER 1 LB OF POWDER AT 1 MIL

÷  THIS NUMBER BY DESIRED MIL THICKNESS  =
THE THEORETICAL COVERAGE IN SQ FT PER 1 LB OF POWDER

Now for the sake of ease of argument, let’s assume that the powder application system is spray to waste and we get an estimated 50 percent loss in the spray to waste system.
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Analysis of Powder Supplier 1:
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When you calculate the powder, you should find that they can cover 161 sq feet at 1 mil per 1 lb of Powder Supplier 1’s powder. Divided by the mil thickness requirement of 2.5, we find that they can cover 64.4 sq feet per pound.

Divide this number by 50% (estimated powder loss in spray to waste environment) and we get 32.2 square feet per lb.

[color="blue"]Analysis of Powder Supplier 2:[/color]

When you calculate the powder, you should find that they can cover 107 sq feet at 1 mil per 1 lb of Powder Supplier 2’s powder. Divided by the mil thickness requirement of 2.5, we find that they can cover 42.9 sq feet per pound.

Divide this number by 50% (estimated powder loss in spray to waste environment) and we get 21.45 square feet per lb.

So, Just What are the Real Numbers?

We know that the job is 2000 total square feet. We also know now, how much it will theoretically take of each of the supplier’s powders to complete the job.

Supplier Powder 1: At 32.20 square feet per lb, it will take 62.11 lbs of powder to do the job. FINAL COST ANALYSIS - The 62.11 lbs at $4.00 per lb totals $248.44 in powder for the job.

Supplier Powder 2: At 21.45 square feet per lb, it will take 93.24 lbs of powder to do the job.  FINAL COST ANALYSIS - The 93.24 lbs at $3.25 per lb totals $303.03 in powder for the job.

Now, I know you are in the business of powder coating to make money. This analysis shows an apples-to-apples view of one powder vs. another powder and compares them with all of the same parameters. Here is what we found out. The cheaper powder (Supplier Powder 2), at $0.75 per pound cheaper, actually ended up costing you, the powder coating shop, $54.59 more to do the same exact job. Not much of a savings is there. The Supplier Powder 1, the higher priced powder, yielded 10.75 more square feet per lb, which translated into using 31.13 less lbs of powder for the same job.

[color="blue"]What is Actual Cost? [/color]
Actual cost is what your true cost is. This figure takes everything into consideration. Take all of your daily financial operations figures and break them down. Divide this number by the number of hours your line is in operation and you have a true cost of running your operation per hour. Many successful shops price by this method and also factor in profit margins they must meet. Depending on how many parts (and what kind of parts) you will be able to run per hour, you can easily determine a per part cost. By using this method, you can determine the actual cost on a per part basis.

I am often asked by my customers, “How should I price my powder jobs”? This is a loaded question and not one that any powder salesman should readily answer. Reason being, we do not know the specific details of your particular business. Sure, we have an idea in general, but there are many factors. Here are a few of the many issues that determine how much you should charge per part:

* Do you offer medical insurance to your employees?
* How much does it cost to run your oven everyday?
* What are your maintenance costs? Grease, chemicals, tools etc.?
* How many parts can go into the oven or through the oven per hour or batch?
* How many parts deliveries and pickups do you make?
* How much did you spend at OfficeMax for your printer paper and paperclips?

Ok, you get the idea. Every penny you spent, every minute utilized or wasted, every day to day action in your shop determines the actual cost.

It is my hope that this article was able to help you in your powder purchasing. I welcome the opportunity of helping you save money. I too have been tricked many times in my life by the “smokes and mirrors” of a great price, but just how great was Powder Supplier 2 after it was all said and done. I would rather keep the $54.59 in the bank than keep excess powder on my shelf that may never be used again.

For information on attending an upcoming TIGER Drylac Powder Coating School, please visit www.southernmetalfinishing.com. This powder coating school will be held in Charleston, SC on August 7 and 8, 2006 in association with the Southern Metal Finishing Conference. You can visit this web site for more information and to register.

This article was written by Travis Stirewalt. He is the Regional Sales Manager for TIGER Drylac USA for NC, SC and TN. He welcomes calls and technical support questions from any of our readers. You can reach him by calling 615-400-1220 or by emailing him at t.stirewalt@tigerdrylac.com.

Travis Stirewalt, CSI
Senior Sales Manager, Southeastern US
TIGER Drylac USA Powder Coatings
www.tigerdrylac.com

JoePowder

Re: Purchase Powder SMART!

Dear Travis,

Your approach to the issue of coverage cost as opposed to cost per pound (or kilo) of powder has relevance, however there is at least one incorrect assumption.  You quote Powder Supplier 1 as offering a white powder with a Specific Gravity of 1.20.  This is physically impossible.  The specific gravity of the resins and crosslinkers used in powder ranges from 1.15 to 1.46.  White pigments have a specific gravity of 3.8 to 5.5.  Titanium dioxide is the most common white pigment and typically has an SG around 4.0.  The only way to have a powder with an SG of 1.2 is as a clear or a very lightly pigmented formula (transparent).  You can encounter white powders with SG's as low as 1.5 or 1.6 and others as high as 1.9 or more.  So your assumptions should be adjusted and recalculated.

Thanks for listening.

Joe Powder

tinman

Re: Purchase Powder SMART!

interesting article. we buy from drylac,dupont,tci,rohm/haas and powder coat
12,500 units of 24"x24" parts per week about 50,000 sq ft of parts per week on two auto/manual conveyor lines.one gets single parts hung and has a 20 ft radiant oven and at 15 ft per min can do
about 400 per hour. our big line does 600 per hour at 11 ft per min double hung top and bottom with S hooks.
we do about 50 different colors and do not have recirculating powder systems. we figured out how to spray to waste, reclaim in out of the boxes
using the non electric vacuums. we made a 4x4x4' steel box hooked to a
30 hp compressor and put in a fluidizing board on bottom braced underneath by metal cross braces. while we run 3 different base copper shades(two from drylac and one from rohm, when we do our coppers and they are 3 different shades,we do them in order into the "copper hopper". then we vaccum out about 3 55 gallon drums of
the waste powder, put it in the big box turn on the air and mix it. then we suck it out with the big vacuum back into the drums and voila. we have about
1200 lbs of a new shade of copper. we send this up to the big line with the
80 ft gas oven which does double parts and here we have 5 individual color reclaim units.(whites/clear coat/copper/gold/whatever hopper, we dont use them for that. we simply use them in same color order.
in this case we spray our new copper and blast it on the double hung panels
we dont care about transfer efficiency as the powder is FREE. then after we are done we have another vacuum clean out the hopper, booth and reclaim unit and out of a full barrel used for instance we refill that barrel about
2/3 full. so we used 1/3 barrel or 130 lbs of powder ( free powder) did about
600 parts at about 3 mils.dont hold me to these numbers exactly they are estimates as we dont bother to figure it out as we dont care what it is it just works.
we save these and remix with the fresh powder coming out of the first line
(back into the remising  box)
let me tell you that our powder coating costs have dropped so much as we dont use much new powder. and we get entirely new colors unique to us that can not even be bought at any powder supplier. we mix white reclaim with
copper and it makes a granular sandstone color that is amazing.etc etc
and up goes another color on our product line. we can basically mix any
color we want by just substituting whatever reclaim barrels we want to use.
we have zero waste of powder, increased our color line, and dropped our powder coating costs by at least 50%. making the box is easy and cost us about 2000 dollars not including the compressor which we had anyway running the powder ops.it is so efficient versus our sales, and we lead our industry worldwide, that we have built up a stock of 120 full 55 gallons drums
of surplus powders to make new colors when ever we want. at 400lbs per drum that is about 48000 lbs of powder we were throwing away til the dumpster caught fire and they blamed us and said dont dump your powder in their anymore. so we figured this out from necessity.
if you could buy these mixes and you cant even from tci, they would cost at least $ 4 per lb so we made about 200,000 dollars of wasted powder into
this stock of gems in one year. we have produced colors from it like
copper bronze grantite
burgundy copper granite
mocha sandstone
pale moca sandstone
etc etc. we run out of names for these beautiful blends and only introduce
about 8 of them then when we run out of that specific batch we blend another using the same base colors and up that color goes with a new name.
if anyone wants the specs on the box let me know and i can get my
powder coating manager, who thought this whole thing up to draw a picture of how he did it. hes from kentucky and as he says it aint broke til i say i cant fix it kind of guy. tinman/ worlds largest mfg/direct seller of tin ceiling panels www.americantinceilings.com

Southern Metal Finishing

Re: Purchase Powder SMART!

I'd like to know more about this.......

>>>> if anyone wants the specs on the box let me know and i can get my powder coating manager, who thought this whole thing up to draw a picture of how he did it <<<<

Thanks,

SMF